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Timothy Dwyer and William Dwyer
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rbrewr



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:49 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tony.
Follow up on:- "There is rumour that he is buried in Boston, USA". To date I have found nothing to establish the validity of this rumour, (Thats not to say that there may be something in it? ).
There is William Dwyer that entered Boston . USA. Via Canada around 1919, it looks as if he came via Liverpool- Queenstown-Canada- Boston. I am still following this up .
Reg.
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tonydw
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:19 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

rbrewr wrote:
Hi Tony.
Follow up on:- "There is rumour that he is buried in Boston, USA". To date I have found nothing to establish the validity of this rumour, (Thats not to say that there may be something in it? ).
There is William Dwyer that entered Boston . USA. Via Canada around 1919, it looks as if he came via Liverpool- Queenstown-Canada- Boston. I am still following this up .
Reg.


William Dwyer entering the States via Canada sounds interesting, he could well have jumped ship; I know my dad did just that in the early 20’s, I managed to trace him through the Ellis Island website and his reason for doing that could have been to find his father, my grandfather?
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rbrewr



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:06 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Great stuff Tony, I am intrigued with this interesting puzzle.
Reg.
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rbrewr



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:48 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tony,
I have traced that William Dwyer, but he is not your William he was born in Richmond Surrey.I still another 3 William Dwyer's to trace.
Reg.
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tonydw
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:31 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Reg, I have been on and off the computer over the last week, it's giving me a load of trouble and I'm having real problem trying to discover exactly what is wrong. I built this computer about 2 years ago and I've been updating along the way; since I got sick I've given up doing my own repairs and I'm thinking about having a new one built soon; the problem I am having is intermitent, if I don't have any luck in the next couple of days I will get a quote on having a new one built.

Thank you for all the work you have done in tracing my grandfather and great grandfather, I just know you are going to crack the search very soon.
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rbrewr



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:56 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tony.
No luck this week, Have traced about 6 William Dwyer's but they turned out "not your William" At one stage I was tracing a dwyer and throught it may have lead somewhere but it was not to be, you may like to have a look at that site incase I missed something :-
http://www.geocities.com/layedwyer/dwyer.htm

http://www.geocities.com/layedwyer/ballyquirk.htm

Reg.
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tonydw
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:47 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Both very interesting sites Reg, how did you find them? Sadly no connection there for me but I live in hope, thank you for all your help to date ... I've collected it all and I will save the information until I,m feeling a bit better. Very Happy
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rbrewr



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:46 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tony.
Did not do much this week as my computor had a bad dose of "Trojan Viris." and put me back a few days.I have traced another Dwyer to the US, but was unable to prove ANYTHING as the graves are un-named, have a look at :-row list, 3,4 0r 5. I think they are all too old to be of interest? Off again to see what can be found.
http://www.colonsay.org.uk/COLRIPweb.pdf

Reg.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:17 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the leads Reg but unfortunately they are too old, my grandfather went a lot earlier than that.
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rbrewr



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:15 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tony.
have just found this old Newspaper report, no date given, but I think it is worth me trying to follow up? :-
"At Winchester Assizes on Monday Geo. Francis McGough was convicted of
manslaughter on the high seas, and sentenced to fifteen months hard labour.
While the Steamer Ruslington, from Cardiff, with coals, was at Santos on
March 10th, McGough who was intoxicated after being ashore, wanted to
fight, and fastened on Dwyer, whom he butted in the stomach, and, as alleged,
threw him over the hatchway into the hold, twenty feet deep, causing death. The
defence was that the affair was accidental."

Sounds very interesting, but you can never take things for granted in genealogy.
Reg.

The article in the Barry Dock News
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tonydw
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:00 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

rbrewr wrote:
Hi Tony.
have just found this old Newspaper report, no date given, but I think it is worth me trying to follow up? :-
"At Winchester Assizes on Monday Geo. Francis McGough was convicted of
manslaughter on the high seas, and sentenced to fifteen months hard labour.
While the Steamer Ruslington, from Cardiff, with coals, was at Santos on
March 10th, McGough who was intoxicated after being ashore, wanted to
fight, and fastened on Dwyer, whom he butted in the stomach, and, as alleged,
threw him over the hatchway into the hold, twenty feet deep, causing death. The
defence was that the affair was accidental."

Sounds very interesting, but you can never take things for granted in genealogy.
Reg.

The article in the Barry Dock News


That's very interesting Reg as the family story of my grandfather talks of him falling down the engineroom onto the top of a boiler and breaking his neck, it was said to be an accident. What year did the McGough/Dwyer incident take place?
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rbrewr



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:35 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tony.
There was no date given. Shall follow up on the Winchester Assizes , there must be more information .
Will be back soon. Reg.
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rbrewr



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:59 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tony
I now have the full story, it is not your William, but it makes great reading.
Maybe the next one will be him??.
Reg.
http://www.magoo.com/hugh/george.html#frank
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rbrewr



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:28 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tony,
I must say that the Dwyer family is one of the most travelled I have had to trace, they are eveywhere. I have been going through the US Censes right down the east coast between 1910~1920 , nothing concrete yet. Do you know if William had nick name??
Reg.
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rbrewr



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:08 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tony.
After going through all the old 1910~1930 Newspaper Archives (using mass media) I have been unable to find William, dead or alive in any state on the US east coast.
Nor was I able at this stage to get any information on his movements after 1901 in GB, But there is still a long way to go yet. I shall not let this unyielding and stubborn Dwyer get away with his secret! Somewhere there must be a record.
Reg.
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